US Gulf units may not fire on Iranian military without White House say-so / Way to go Obama

Sorry it's kind of long but here is another shinny example of the brilliance of the Obama foreign policy.


I feel so safe knowing Obama's in charge. Or it's just a matter of time before the shit hits the fan under Obama's watch.

Or just another I told you so from the Information Minister



US Gulf units may not fire on Iranian military without White House say-so

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report April 29, 2010, 7:42 PM (GMT+02:00)

USS Eisenhower carrier

The US Fifth Fleet and US aircraft carrier USS Eisenhower in the Gulf of Oman were not allowed to shoot at an Iranian Fokker F27 aircraft which on April 21 hovered for 20 minutes 900 meters over the carrier and no more than 250 meters away, even though they saw its flight crew gathering intelligence on the Eisenhower and its warship escorts.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly's military sources report that the US Persian Gulf command went public on the incident on April 28, a whole week later, only after Gulf military circles, amazed at the American naval and air units' passivity in the face of hostile surveillance, threatened to break the story to local media.

This striking restraint indicates that the US Gulf and Arabian fleets are under orders to take no action - certainly not to open fire - against Iranian naval or air units, with first obtaining permission directly from Washington.

Military, naval and aviation sources told DEBKA-Net-Weekly that the Iranian spy plane was 10 second away from flying directly over the Eisenhower and could easily have been shot down.

To try and explain this incident away, US naval sources Wednesday, April 28, claimed the Iranian plane was unarmed and its encounter with the US carrier was not of a threatening nature, although irregular.

Admiral Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations, tried to play down the importance of the incident by saying: "The Iranians (pilots) were not provocative or threatening. As long as they are professional and not threatening or reckless, it's international space."

But officials of the Gulf emirate navies think otherwise. They say it was the first time that an Iranian spy plane ventured so close to an American aircraft carrier and the US non-response will encourage Tehran to go for bolder and more provocative actions.

Of late, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, especially Oman and the United Arab Emirates, have become extra-sensitive of late to the raised US response threshold to threatening moves by Iran, after witnessing the sinking of a South Korean warship and the handling of the case by Washington.

The South Korean Cheonan, a 1,200-ton corvette, was sunk on March 26, apparently by a naval mine that was planted by the North Korean navy in the Baengnyeong Island area, whose sovereignty is in dispute between Seoul and Pyongyang. Right after the incident, in which 46 South Korean sailors were lost, the Obama administration hastened to issue a statement denying evidence of North Korean involvement - even though South Korean intelligence demonstrated that a North Korean mine, or midget submarine of a type of in the possession of the Iranian Navy, was responsible for sinking the corvette.

Undersecretary of State James Steinberg, who deals with Iranian affairs, said on March 29 that he had heard nothing to implicate any other country in the tragedy.

This was taken in Gulf capitals to show the Obama administration was ready to lean backwards to avoid military action against North Korea - even on the part of the injured party, South Korea. They see a close correlation between the provocative tactics employed by Pyongyang and Tehran, whose nuclear and missile programs are likewise coordinated. These Gulf sources, talking to debkafile, wondered out loud if the United States would also turn a blind eye to an Iranian attack that cause the sinking of a Saudi, UAE or Israeli ship sailing in the Gulf.

And another parallel is worth noting: Just as the two Koreas are at odds over the Baengnyeong Islands, so too the UAE claims the owners of three islands near the Straits of Hormuz - Greater Tunb, Lesser Tunb and Abu Musa - accusing Tehran of seizing them by force for the use of Revolutionary Guard naval bases.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly's military sources say that the Iranian spy plane that flew over the USS Eisenhower on April 21 apparently took off from an Iranian military airfield on the island of Abu Musa.

Far from giving up their claim to the three islands, on April 20, UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahayan said there is no difference between the Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights, South Lebanon, the West Bank and Gaza, and Iranian occupation of these islands.

Obama: "I do think at a certain point you've made enough money"

Once again it's the do as I say not as I do Overlord, that made 5 Million dollars last year telling us that "at a certain point you’ve made enough money”


Please explain to me again how Obama is not a Marxist?

Please explain to me why you think Obama even gives the slightest damn about you and your struggles?

Please explain who you could vote for this guy again?

When you hear Obama say "Yes we can" who do you really think he's talking about?

At this point can you honestly think he's talking about you?

The man made millions last year from people buying his "books" about himself.

While unemployment grew, spending of your money grew, taxes grew, our nation debt grew.

While Obama traveled the country telling us we needed heath care to save the economy.

While the truth of Obama care reveals that the cost curve will grow in stead of drop like Obama promised.

To paraphrase Obama: "I do think at a certain point you've got to admit Obama is a bad president that needs to be voted out"



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JohnGalt1984

The Information Minister would like to ask you a few questions?

In light of the outrage from the left regarding the "proof of citizenship" law the just passed in AZ, I would like to ask you the following questions.


Would the Liberals and Democrats in this country be as outraged if as part of the Cap & trade bill the EPA would have the ability to inspect industries for violations if they were "reasonably suspect" they were over polluting?

Also, to our union brothers and sisters out there?  How will amnesty secure your jobs? Look at unemployment currently, now just imagine another 10-15 million people competing for your job.

I am stunned when people think that Democrats are pro union. How can you be pro union and pro amnesty at the same time?

Think about it, how many "white collar" jobs do you really think illegal aliens are going to apply for once they become legal?  This will decimate the legal labor force in this country make no mistake.

Why should legalized citizens support this? Why should natural citizens support this?  Just because Obama said so?

At the heart of this issue is Obama's push for "comprehensive immigration reform." In following the Obama play book of make it evil to get something passed.  Obama has chosen the law in AZ as his calling card for reform, as I have pointed out countless times and yet I'm the bad guy for it.

I see the 460000 illegals in AZ as a problem.  Obama see 460000 potential votes.

In addition, what happened to the laser focus on job creation Obama promised back in January?

Can anyone even remember Obama talking about jobs?

My real question is who is defending the constitution?  Who is defending the American citizen?  Who is defending the American way of life?  Obama?

Make no mistake amnesty is a threat to sovereignty of the nation?  What's the point of a country when you have no borders or an open door policy?

I bring this up because some people still want to give Obama more time?

My point is, we have given Obama, Pelosi, Reid, the democrats and the liberals enough time.  You really have to think hard about voting for these clowns in the next election.

You know I'm right!


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A moment of clarity regarding the GM repayment of bailout loans from the Information Minister

My fellow Patriots,


Team Obama's recent touting of GM's repayment of bailout loans made headlines around the country.  "See here's something Obama did right".  Not those evil bankers who made a profit that we need to crush. Proving Obama's much vaunted genius to give GM a bailout.

Well its been a few days now and the real story is starting to come out on this "repayment."  Turns out that the money used to repay the government bailout was in fact other TARP money set up in an escrow account at Treasury- not from earnings.

Of the billions in cash given to GM, 6.7billion was set aside in escrow for the repayment of loans to the Treasury.  An additional 5.6 billion in cash would stay in the Treasury to reply other loans.

In other words GM used TARP money to repay TARP money.

And since GM used TARP money the treasury had to approve this re shuffle of funds.

The desperation of the Obama administration to manufacture anything positive is truly without bounds.  All to try to deceive the public into thinking that all the bailouts and spending and massive government intervention was just another brilliant move by Obama.

The question is why??

Why now and why repay it so quickly?

Well part of the TARP fund is a responsibility "fee", or tax that is scheduled to kick in June of this year.  This fee would mean billions in taxes re-payed to the government.

But I'm sure this is just another timing coincidence that the Obama administration knew nothing about.  Like the timing of the increase of premiums for the Insurance company in California in order to get HC passed. And like the Goldman Sachs SEC suite so Obama can sell financial "Reform" and get this passed.

The point is, I'm not sure who is worse. The public who keeps buying the crap.  Or the administration who and I know I might offend some of you out there.  An administration who truly thinks were a bunch of morons.

You have Obama running around on tour mocking his way across the country.  Treating anyone who dares question him as a hate monger.  Telling people we should be thanking him for his "tax cuts" which we all know is a pile of crap.

Can anyone even remember the last time Obama held a press conference?  Gee I wonder why?  This clown that's right I said clown has run whole shot over the constitution without one person from the press being able to ask one valid question.

Enough of the BS. Let me put this as clearly as I can, Obama must be voted out of office in 2012.  The Democrats must lose the majority in one or both houses of congress.  There I said it and I mean it.



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George Carlin - Saving the Planet on Earth Day

I know that George was a big time liberal, but I think he says this the best regarding Global Warming.






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JohnGalt1984

Who's afraid of us now?!?

The Brilliance of the Obama foreign policy

Remember he did all of this in the name of improving our standing in the world


So let's review shall we...



1) Closed Gitmo....well not yet but he's still thinking about it

2) Limits interrogation and revealed our techniques to the world...don't want to upset or surprise the terrorists now do we. Also, its good for the enemy to just how far we'll go before we stop

3) Removes the missile defense systems in Poland and the Czech Republic...now we know why, to appease the Russians for the upcoming nuclear treaty

4) Bashes or snubs Israel

5) Backs off of Iran in general

6) Does not support the freedom movement in Iran

7) Bashes or Snubs Israel

8) Allows Iran to Nuke up

9) Blows off England... England in turn removes the US from favorite country status...that's always good for a country's image.

10) Begs for billions from China

11) Does nothing to make America energy independent...yes this is a foreign policy issue...and no just saying we can explore for oil does not make it so.

12) Blows off India when he was in the region...India if you remember is the largest democracy in the world and a Nuclear power but why be friendly with them

13) Sends Crazy Uncle Joe to Israel just scold them about how to run their own country.

14) Invite Israel to the US only to leave them waiting for an hour and a half so Obama can eat dinner

15) Devalued- our currency to almost the point of pre-war Germany.

16) The pre & post-election apology tour for America

17) The constant bowing

18) Begging for billions from China...if Obama can keep going back for more why can't I mention it again?

19) Revealing where, when and why we will use Nuclear weapons...its always good to tell your enemies your secrets and your self imposed limitations on retaliations and or first strikes, I'm sure they'll never use this against us or to their advantage

20) Signing a Arms treaty with Russia with a provision to allow Russia to back out if they change their mind.



Could someone please explain how any of this makes America safer or improves our image ?



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Hope and Change?!?

Fitting Ayn Rand Quote

"When the code of the looters has collapsed...when the creed of self-immolation has run, for once, its undisguised course- when men find no victims ready to obstruct the path of justice and to deflect the fall of retribution on themselves-when the preachers of self-sacrifice discover that those who are willing to practice it, have nothing to sacrifice, and those who have, are not willing any longer...then we will come back to rebuild the world" Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Great Rant

Don Wade and Fox commentator

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